How would you justify owning multiples of the same cars?

"BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires" (biturbo228)
10/13/2013 at 09:36 • Filed to: None

I'm not sold on it, to be perfectly honest. It seems a little selfish, hoarding the same car and preventing others from having one when you can get the same experience from just one of them. However, I do really rather want a GT6 (which will be near identical to my Spit6).

The way I'd do it is try to make each car as distinct as possible. The Spitfire will have the longer stroke 2.5l I6, and run fuel injection. It'll most likely wind up being a fairly lazy engine with a good deal of low-down torque, and the novelty of the early fuel injection system.

The plan for a GT6 would be to keep the original short-stroke 2.0l, lighten and balance it to get the highest RPM I can safely get (probably around 7000), fit triple Webers and create a small-displacement screamer. I'm thinking 150bhp and something to chase C10 Skyline GT-Rs with.

Thus, even though they have the same chassis, the same base engine and near-identical bodywork they would be two completely different cars.

Of course, you could just say 'fuck it, I like them so I'm going to buy more than one'. That would work too.

DISCUSSION (25)

PS9 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 09:40

Justify to who? Its my money. If I want buy every microversion of the GTR who's gonna stop me?

A3R0 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 09:41

Sounds awesome and completely reasonable to me! Why do people have multiple old 911's? Look at Magnus Walker, its basically the same thing. GO FOR IT!

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 09:41

If they're distinct in terms of spec/trim and mods, why not?

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > PS9
10/13/2013 at 09:44

Technically the US department of customs will try and stop you, but that's specific to the GT-R ;)

I like the outlook though.

Sparf > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 09:56

I could see myself owning up to three Z31s (a 200ZR-I, a 300ZX Turbo and a V8-swapped 300ZX N/A) in the future, so I don't see why you can't own two Spits'.

webmonkees > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 10:25

Parts. Although I suppose you meant 'nice example', not parts car.

Wait long enough and people will want to buy the parts car.

Grindintosecond > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 10:56

I have a project OG mini 998 awaiting rust fixin when I have time. It will be built stock but I can't tell you how I want a 1380cc hot rod street/track racer version in addition to it, but I would also love to build a vintage rally version for the popular CO rallycrossing out here...and then a mini-tec awd honda conversion for drags...so my list of the same car=4 but all different. 4 of the same would just be hoarding unless the whole family wants their own..

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 10:56

I would basically do exactly what you said. For me, that would obviously be Integras. I'd love to have 3 of them. One stripped out with the screaming Type-R engine, and a race-level suspension setup. One with some nice wheels, bagged suspension and a custom interior for show. And of course a GS-R with stock everything except for a K24A2 for a DD.

Your boy, BJR > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 11:05

My dad's father in law has 3 TVR Griffith 600s. Out of 10 made. Lol.

wkiernan > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 11:21

Well, I've got two NB Miatas, both bought used, but that's because the older one had 206,000 miles on it so I got its replacement a bit ahead of time, so I wouldn't have to rush around if the old car crapped out suddenly. Now I have two of them to drive on alternate days.

What I do is worse, from a car purist's point of view, than you "hoarding" Spitfires: for 35 years I have always run my cars into the ground. They aren't collectors's items - I can't afford collectors's items! - they're daily drivers. I'm not planning on unloading my '99 until it breaks down so decisively that repair would cost more than the repaired car would be worth. When I finally get rid of it it will be a parts car at best. You might say, "That's OK, because Mazda has sold three-quarter million of them, so it's not like letting some irreplacable classic rust out in somebody's back lot." But when I was a kid Spitfires and MGBs and TRs were also common mass-market cars you saw everywhere, and a lot of them ended up, after being used up and discarded, as scrap metal, which is exactly why your two would be so rare today.

JasonStern911 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 14:07

I can see merit in having a 911 Cabriolet for summer and a 911 C4 Coupe in winter.

DavidHH > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 16:03

It's easy if you have a significant other. The 84 4000q is my car, the 87 4000q is her car. The only problem arises when I smoke in her car...

Boss2452stolemylunchmoney > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 16:57

Well...clearly this is my Tuesday car and...what's that? Of course I have a Tuesday car. Doesn't everyone have a Tuesday car? What would you drive on Tuesdays otherwise, if you didn't have a Tuesday car? Sunil, you're not listening.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > A3R0
10/13/2013 at 18:36

That's part of what I was thinking.

To be honest, I'd love to do what Magnus does with another car (I'm thinking either small-chassis Triumphs like the Spitfire and GT6, big-chassis Triumphs like the TR5 and TR6, Triumph Stags, Alfa transaxle cars or Maserati Biturbos).

Not that I'd ever make any money on any of those, but I get the idea that that wasn't Magnus' first priority either.

A3R0 > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 18:38

Yup! You got to live the dream.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > wkiernan
10/13/2013 at 18:45

I don't actually see that much of an issue with that. After all, that's what happens to the vast majority of cars. It takes a special kind of lunatic to continue to repair a car long after it's reached the point of value-for-money.

It would have been nice if more people had maintained/restored their cars, both past and present, but that's not always on the cards for many people (and it's not something that even crosses the minds of others).

I do wish a couple more people had done that with Alfetta saloons though. It's damn near impossible to find ones in RHD any more.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Your boy, BJR
10/13/2013 at 18:46

Sweet. I love the old Griffiths, and the 600s were batshit insane.

Your boy, BJR > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 18:51

Yeah the dude HOARDS Griffiths. He has the 600s, a body and frame from a 200, and a mostly complete 400.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Your boy, BJR
10/13/2013 at 18:55

Does he drive them/work on them?

I think I've decided that I'm ok with it so long as you don't just hoard them and let them rot.

Your boy, BJR > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 19:27

Some of them. He own a tuning company and buys tons of cars to experiment with. He has an Envoy XUV 5.3 that can keep up with the SRT8 Cherokees, a LSA powered Solstice with the engine set back to keep a perfect weight distribution, and a twin turbo ATS Cadillac sent him last year to work on the tuning for. Plus a lot of other random cars.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Your boy, BJR
10/13/2013 at 19:30

Sweet. I want his job :)

Your boy, BJR > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 19:37

I'll have to get SR20 next time I go up there.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Your boy, BJR
10/13/2013 at 19:51

Please do :) I love the little Griffiths, and the other cars sound pretty bonkers too.

Your boy, BJR > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/13/2013 at 19:52

He's certifiable when it comes to cars. This is a good thing.

Thunder > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires
10/18/2013 at 12:47

I'd justify that if one were stock and the other heavily modified.

But in the real world, I'd probably go with something different.